Need a Graphics card

a30fyllos

Hello

I want to buy a graphics card to run rfactor2. My badget is around 70$.

My pc:

Pentium Dual core 2.2Ghz, 800FSB, 1MB Cache
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L
RAM 3Gb


Have you got any suggestions because i dont know much about?

Thanks
 
The only graphics card I would recommend in that budget would be this: Radeon HD 6670 DDR3 if you are looking for new.

If you can find someone selling a used 5670 it would be better, or any other 6XXX or 7XXX graphics cards in your price range, though I would avoid anything that is lower than X6XX.

The problem you are going to run into is that your CPU is weak compared to what the graphics card would like to have, so you won't realize the full potential of any new card you can find. You will also need to be sure that the power supply in your computer has a 6pin connector for the graphics card as without it, your system won't even display anything.
 
For a few more horse powers from your setup It should also be worth mentioning that your Pentium CPU with your Gigabyte motherboard could be overclocked. If you could manage that. :)

Bios settings can be tweaked quite easily, this should give you a nice easy 3Ghz from your E2200

Go in to the 'MB Intelligent tweaker' menu in BIOS,

Change settings in this order, normally helps.

CPU Voltage to - 1.4v, then reboot (F10), then back into BIOS,
CPU Clock ratio at x10 (default is 11)
CPU Host Clock Control to 'Enable'
CPU Host Frequency at 300mhz
Performance Enhance - Standard
Memory Multiplyer (SPD) - Auto or 2.00
F10 to save and restart

Should give you quite a significant boost! 800mhz cpu power for free!!

Happy days :)
 
If you are going to overclock, keep in mind that every CPU can get to a different level. What one can do another can not do. Also, you will want to be sure to keep your CPU cool. Stock heatsink and fan setups are usually not up to keeping an overclocked CPU cool. You may have to invest in a better cooler. If you are not familiar with overclocking, be extremely cautious as you could fry components on the motherboard if things go really wrong. Overclocking is not to be undertaken lightly.
 
Thanks GearJ, forgot about the temps :)

Though from what I can remember on my old setup, very similar to fyllos. Temps with stock cooler were around the 25-30 mark at idle. Running 1.35-1.4v's upped temps to around 40 degrees idle. Playing a game 50-55 tops. No zee problem for our dual core family :)
 
So guys,

If i do overclock and buy this graphic gard i ll be ok. I need to buy a cooler system?
 
I decide to make an emprovement to my pc.
The motherboard is Gigabyte GA-G31M S2L, LGA775

1. The only cpu i can find is Intel core 2 duo E7500 2.93Ghz.

2. Graphics card i can buy the one Gearjammer suggested (Radeon HD 6670 DDR3), but i have ddr2 ram, is this problem?

3. What do you think? Is this ok to run rfactor2? In which perfomance will play? Is it worthing the money?

4. Any other suggestions for better perfomance?

Thanks
 
Just make sure that your power supply can handle the graphics card before you spend the money otherwise you are likely to have a card with no way to use it till you get a new power supply. The main thing to look for is to be sure that it has a power connector designed to connect to the graphics card. Typically this would be a 6 pin connector with 2 sets of 3 pins side by side.
 
No it hasn't. Could you tell me which power supply to buy?

And how i connect it with the card. The card hasn't 6 pin connector.
 
Where are you from Fyllos? :)

An E7500 would be great. How much is it? There are alot of old Core2Duo's on ebay and most would run 100% perfect in your motherboard, even 2nd hand ones.

As Gearjammer suggested before though, a new power supply is a vital part of your PC system. If your old power supply is under too much load it could damage other components. Do you know what power supply you have now?? Model number like?
This is a half decent Power supply and would see you well,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CORSAIR-C...omputing_PowerSupplies_EH&hash=item3cc5a6ac05

The graphics card GearJ recommended, HD 6670 is DDR3 yes, the ddr3 memory on the graphics card itself is separate from your motherboard memory, so no need to worry about that :)

Good thing with a HD5670 is they dont need external power!! I used to have one myself. Asus AEH5670 and was pretty quick for what it was! It could run Crysis 2 on 1080p with low graphics, it managed it well!
 
As i see in a photo 6670 hasn't a 6 pin slot. So where I put this adapter?
 
a30fyllos said:
As i see in a photo 6670 hasn't a 6 pin slot. So where I put this adapter?
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As you noticed the 6670 doesn't have an additional 6 pin power connector, it draws all its power from the PCI Express slot it's plugged into.
 
Interesting, I hadn't look closely at the 6670 and you are correct, it appears they made it so it doesn't need the extra external power connected. That is one less worry for you there. With your power supply being a 300W one, it should be ok as long as you don't have tons of stuff connected to it.
 
If I go my badget to 100€ for GPU, will I get better? I ll get better performance than 6670? Any suggestions?
Thanks

ps. sorry for all these questions but its the 2nd day I play rfactor2 and its amazing. It's a disease!!!
I have now gf 9500 gt and not good performance.
 
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Cards the same speed! :)
 
Just don't rely on those charts alone, seen some dodgy scores on there, for instance it has my card (GTX470) above a HD6990, or a HD7770 scoring close on 50% more than a HD6850. If your primary reason for getting a card is to run games I'd take a look at tests more related to gaming.
 
Its just relative to the software it uses, PerformanceTest v8.0, which is simplex to complex 3D graphics tests, well worthy for 2012 gaming performance tests. I can believe your 470 outperforms the 6990 in that test yes, maybe other benchmarks vary to this, like any :)

I ran PerformanceTest v7.0 not that long back and it was bang on for my HD5750, a score of 1,300 something, same as their test, so its sort of correct :)

Give it a try! ;)
 
For the best non biased testing of graphics cards, I always look at tomshardware.com. They have been doing hardware reviews and testing for quite some time and I have yet to see them perform tests with the idea to push one brand or another. Toms also does quarterly reviews for price versus performance and the articles are titled "Best Graphics Card for the Money" along with the month of the post, the last one I think was November. The last page of the article has a hierarchy chart from best on top to worst on bottom so it is easy to see where each card sits performance wise.

The nice thing is that you can see what the best bang for the buck is for what ever your budget.
 
Yep, pretty good that Hierarchy page, not been there for yonks! I always remember them saying not worth upgrading for new stuff unless its 3 tiers above your old card. I havnt upgraded for years hehe :)
 
Pluginz said:
Its just relative to the software it uses, PerformanceTest v8.0, which is simplex to complex 3D graphics tests, well worthy for 2012 gaming performance tests. I can believe your 470 outperforms the 6990 in that test yes, maybe other benchmarks vary to this, like any :)

I ran PerformanceTest v7.0 not that long back and it was bang on for my HD5750, a score of 1,300 something, same as their test, so its sort of correct :)

Give it a try! ;)
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I didn't say it wasn't correct, it is what it is, the OP wants a card for gaming (rF2 specifically) not 'PerformanceTest v7/8' or whatever. For gaming a 470 won't match a 6990 and a 7770 won't be 50% faster than a 6850 which is why I suggested he'd be better off looking at more relevant tests.
 
Yep, your right bud, theres absolutely tons and tons of tests to choose from. That one is just particually easy and quick to run.. I would run 3dmarks like but they take so long to run when your fighting for more frames on a slow machine. Aquamark used to be good but outdated now. Just trying to help the bloke out. :)
 
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