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Hoping the best for jules after a collision with the crane removing Sutil's stricken car at Suzuka GP.
L'Equipe is reporting that Bianchi's surgery is over and he is not under respiratory assistance.
I wish Formula One wasn't a kindergarten when it's raining... I too, wish Formula One drivers would persue being on the right tires for the conditions more... Inters were clearly not up for the job at the end. Oh and calm the f*ck down with double waved yellows, especially when you're on an insufficient tire compound!
That said, I hope Bianchi will recover fully.
Who said that Bianchi could actually see the waved yellow flags..?
In the darkness with rain spray all over..? I for one don't think he could.
He went off at around 220 kph, a speed he wouldn't have driven had he seen the flags.
Maybe he only saw the flags too late because of the poor visibility.
Maybe his lift off the throttle or dab on the brakes contributed to the car going off.
Just saying.
It's very easy to solve; for wet races just deploy the Safety Car B E F O R E deploy any further heavy rescue truck or telehandler. It's easy to understand if a car spun off and crash in a corner for the wet condition, someone else would have done the same soon. Do you remember Nurburgring 2007? Flags are not enough no, especially in a such awful visbility condition. Not saying to do exactly the same as US series, but as it is now it's just ridiculous. Infinite kindergarten to start the race under rain and then you let a huge crushproof telehandler playing around a crash trap. Meh.
It's a complete travesty what happened... It really is. I cannot believe it to be honest.
And yes... I most definitely remember Nürburgring 2007. I don't remember who it was, maybe Sutil, who skated off due to aquaplaning before turn 1 and actually hit the crane, although very lightly.
Had the safety car (nearly stationary in the hairpin waiting for the leaders) not moved out of the way, the spinning race car would have hit it hard.
Side impact, with helmet damaged.The belts would allow very little movement so his helmet probably took the brunt of the impact pushing his head forward..
Didn't they learn from 1994, EXACTLY the same turn and EXACTLY the same incident with Brundle running down a marshall when he went off there after another car?From Sutil went off at the Dunlop curve until Bianchi went off, nearly two minutes passed.
Wasn't that enough time for race control to deploy the SC? Couldn't RC see the huge amount of spray and downpour on their monitors?
Didn't they know that most of the drivers were struggling around on the wrong tire compound and furthermore couldn't see anything around them?
Didn't they learn from 1994, EXACTLY the same turn and EXACTLY the same incident with Brundle running down a marshall when he went off there after another car?
Side impact, with helmet damaged.
Thanks Tim...got that later.
It's never good to see any accident in F1. This kind is most disturbing when the helmet is damaged to that extent.
You know that even with HANS his upper body also took an enormous blow.
Like Hexagramme, I was very anxious after they spoke of the collision...glad it was not actually shown.
I usually feel a sense of relief when I see a driver climb out of a stricken car.
Just watched the video , Not good at all .straight in minimal side impact and green flags being waved. (video on F1Today site)
Just watched the video , Not good at all .straight in minimal side impact and green flags being waved. (video on F1Today site)
The impact is far, far worst than I thought initially.
His car moved the entire mover as it went through the barrier.
That's a lot of energy. those things weigh quite a bit.
Initial point of contact seems to be the left side.
Damage to his helmet could have come from a secondary impact.
While not blaming any one...obviously the marshals were not well trained in this instance or were very confused.
They were waiving the green flag for the bulk of the Sauber's removal and were still waving it, even after the Marussia's impact with the mover.
That needs to be addressed for future races.
Hope my calculations are wrong but I get an awful 50 to 56g force impact, considering the head point, not the car.
No that's true, it doesn't make any sense pointing fingers right now (even though there are quite a few people to point them at).
All that matters in this moment is that Jules get through this in the best way possible.
I had really hoped that some of the speed and energy had gone before he hit the crane, maybe the car bouncing off the barrier first and then into the mover.
That video clip however is extremely disturbing and depressing...
The gravel at Suzuka is apparently very tightly mashed together, and when it's soaking wet I doubt that much speed has been taken out of the car at all.
I really, really hope you're wrong too...
I can't help but think back to de Villota's crash.
She was traveling no more than 50-65 kph (31-40 mph) when she hit the back of the truck.
Devastating consequences nonetheless.
How he did not get decapitated is a huge mystery. He didn't just hit the corner...he went under the back of it.It was such a violent crash that it picked the mover up and pushed the back towards the barrier causing the Sauber to drop off the sling.
Anybody look closely at the telemetry for that car yet?
Is it possible he had a stuck throttle?
There does not seem to be any slowdown at all even that far off the track.
Regardless of the fact that it was wet, you'd get some slowing. Not much but some. He got none.
The close up video clearly shows his head hyper-extending to the right after he takes the initial impact from the vehicle as he goes under the mover.
I think the damage was done to his head on the right, as a result of his helmet contacting the chassis.
How he did not get decapitated is a huge mystery. He didn't just hit the corner...he went under the back of it.
It was such a violent crash that it picked the mover up and pushed the back towards the barrier causing the Sauber to drop off the sling.