GTX 680 4gb running 3 screens and reachin 99º (but not throttling)

Je suis Luis said:
When i get 100° was after click on some feature of asus software. As i understand this overclocked the cpu to 4.5 or 4.6 mhz (instead the stock 4.0 mhz). As i remember, i,ve reached below 80° degrees before doing that at the same test tool (3d mark).
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That autooverclocking program probably raised the crap out of your Vcore which lead to high temps. Disable any overclocking software. Then reboot into your BIOS and make sure you set everything back to 100% stock. Then from there we can slowly overclock 1 step at a time while keeping temperatures in check.

What CPU are you using?

The general consensus regarding CPU voltages are the following (The first vcore value is what you should try to not go over, especially for 24/7 use at that vcore, the 2nd is the max even if just temporary at that vcore)
- Sandy Bridge/ Sandy Bridge-E (eg. 2500k, 2600k, 3930k) = 1.40v, 1.45v
- Ivy Bridge / Ivy Bridge-E (eg. 3570k, 3770k, 4930k) = 1.35v, 1.4v
- Haswell / Haswell-E (eg. 4670k, 4770k, 5930k) = 1.30v - 1.35v

- I'm assuming Devil's Canyon [eg. 4690k, 4790k] is the same as Haswell since they're almost the same chip, but I'm not 100% sure.

With the stock Intel cooler though, you'll be limited by heat before you are even able to reach those voltages (and their corresponding max stable clockspeeds). So I wouldn't even try those vcore values with the stock cooler, infact, completely ignore the second, higher value; I'm just saying that if/when heat doesn't become the limiting factor, try to go no higher than the first value, or maybe just a touch over like 0.015v over (especially if it's just a temporary clock during gaming and other intensive tasks rather than a constant 24/7 clock).
 
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its a 4790k

I put on default cpu settings on asus software but im still getting 4297mhz on cpu frequency. Should i uninstall this thing? Its called dual inteligent processors 5
 
Je suis Luis said:
its a 4790k

I put on default cpu settings on asus software but im still getting 4297mhz on cpu frequency. Should i uninstall this thing? Its called dual inteligent processors 5
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oh my lord ( covers eyes ) lol

Jer a 4970 is 4GHz to 4.4GHz turbo anything in between is fine when you run stock clocks.


Like Spin and I have said countless times in countless build threads use Auto OC software only as a guide on any settings then find lowest stable voltage.

Personally I would not overclock if you reaching 80C "any way it happens"
 
DurgeDriven said:
oh my lord ( covers eyes ) lol

Jer a 4970 is 4GHz to 4.4GHz turbo anything in between is fine when you run stock clocks.


Like Spin and I have said countless times in countless build threads use Auto OC software only as a guide on any settings then find lowest stable voltage.

Personally I would not overclock if you reaching 80C "any way it happens"
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yeah, ha ha i´m loling a lot here, NOT.
ahaha, seriously Durge
Should i uninstall this thing?
 
DurgeDriven said:
Personally I would not overclock if you reaching 80C "any way it happens"
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It wasnt my intention. The software is called 5-way optimization. i thought optimization means "be cool, we handle this **** to you. not need to worry"
 
But all I know mate is you have a Asus 1150 Motherboard

I don't not run any of that crap Jer I set all bios manual, it is just more bloat for mine.

You can make a movie and gaming profile in bios, I don't nor ever liked OS/software overclocking other then for Benchtests.

As long as my PC can run full load 24/7 at decent temps at a given ambient temp.


I going to assume the H100i has not arrived, that will solve 1/2 your problem.

1. MAKE SURE you clean Processor properly of thermal tape and do not scratch it for goodness sakes.

I used artic cleaner for decade http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100010

2. Corsair H100i comes with pre-fitted TM (thermal material)

Make sure you do not bump or scratch that either.

Drop it on the lugs gentle and even, tighten even, you good to go.

After you re-check full load Processor temps in Prime, 3DMark and rF2 you can worry about the GPU.
 
DurgeDriven said:
But all I know mate is you have a Asus 1150 Motherboard

I don't not run any of that crap Jer I set all bios manual, it is just more bloat for mine.

You can make a movie and gaming profile in bios, I don't nor ever liked OS/software overclocking other then for Benchtests.

As long as my PC can run full load 24/7 at decent temps at a given ambient temp.


I going to assume the H100i has not arrived, that will solve 1/2 your problem.

1. MAKE SURE you clean Processor properly of thermal tape and do not scratch it for goodness sakes.

I used artic cleaner for decade http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100010

2. Corsair H100i comes with pre-fitted TM (thermal material)

Make sure you do not bump or scratch that either.

Drop it on the lugs gentle and even, tighten even, you good to go.

After you re-check full load Processor temps in Prime, 3DMark and rF2 you can worry about the GPU.
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Asus z97 a. I will unistall the that software. I do not intend to overclock for now so i think im good to go.
And i will see something on you tube how to properly install the cooler. Doesn´t seems difficult but has a lot of pieces and the manual isn´t clear enough to me.

Thanks!
 
ASUS AI Suite 2 and AI Suite 3 don't actually fully/properly uninstall just from the regular windows uninstaller, you have to go to the ASUS website and download a small uninstaller file.

I'm guessing the name of your entire software is AI Suite 3, correct?
 
Spinelli said:
ASUS AI Suite 2 and AI Suite 3 don't actually fully/properly uninstall just from the regular windows uninstaller, you have to go to the ASUS website and download a small uninstaller file.

I'm guessing the name of your entire software is AI Suite 3, correct?
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Yes Spinelli. Thanks for this info. I was about to direct uninstall with revounistaller :p

Damn, sometimes i think how luck i am that nothing melted here... Thank you all again
 
Yes, revounistaller is a great program, but for this specific program (ASUS AI Suite 2 and 3) don't even use that. Make sure to go directly to ASUS's site and download their Uninstaller file. Remember to get the correct one for the version you have ie. don't use the AI Suite 2 Uninstaller if you're using AI Suite 3.
 
Im trying to post a pic of what i have done before turn on my pc so you can tell if it is safe but cannot find how to upload from my cell. Gonna see if i can borrow an ipad to do that.
Ps: no lols please. Its a mess.
 
I wont turn this **** on until someone gives me a green flag.

Should i install any type of software to manage these new fans?
 
Did the corsair H110 come with any software? If so that is ALL you need. Set it to auto.

There really isn't going to be any airflow over your ram sticks there, did you try installing the radiator the other way - with the hoses on the top furthest away from the MB? Just a thought depending if their long enough. Try to tuck those cables away, even if it means removing the other side cover and pushing them there.

One of the reasons a good computer shop charges so much more to build it for you is the time and effort it takes to keep the cables tidy and out of the way of vital airflow. Modular PSU's are great as you only have the cables you need installed.
 
John said:
Did the corsair H110 come with any software? If so that is ALL you need. Set it to auto.

There really isn't going to be any airflow over your ram sticks there, did you try installing the radiator the other way - with the hoses on the top furthest away from the MB? Just a thought depending if their long enough. Try to tuck those cables away, even if it means removing the other side cover and pushing them there.

One of the reasons a good computer shop charges so much more to build it for you is the time and effort it takes to keep the cables tidy and out of the way of vital airflow. Modular PSU's are great as you only have the cables you need installed.
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Thanks for the advices John. Really appreciate.

Well, i did what you said. Let everything on auto and the results are, literally, cool!

Run the 3dMark test tool and my core temps get down to max: 50º 54º 48º 50º
Not so impressive as i was expecting because i´ve disable the overclock software so it is running at default settings (it is an intel 4790k)

The gpu still going at high temps (94º this time) but i was thinking at this temp i will not be able to put my hand on the black plate above the gpu, but i did. I was hot but i manage to let my hand there for many time as i wish. Dont know if could be an fault sensor as Spinnelli suggest or the black plate was not suppose to get any higher temp than that.

Well, at least, cpu temps will not be an worry anymore :) Now back to gpu... :(
 
Something i like to share. Comparing with other result (i think this is only related to processor unit) i got this results:
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8 threads
231.2 
203.2 fps 
24 threads
132.6 
120.0 fps 
48 threads
74.1 
68.4 fps 
96 threads
40.0 
37.7 fps

Mine are the lower results.

The diference between our systems are these:

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Operating system
64-bit Windows 7 (6.1.7601) 
64-bit Windows 7 (6.1.7601) 
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 1 
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z97-A 
Hard drive model
Memory
16.384 MB 
8.192 MB 
Module 1
8192 MB Kingston DDR3 @ 889 MHz
4096 MB Kingston DDR3 @ 800 MHz
Module 2
8192 MB Kingston DDR3 @ 889 MHz
4096 MB Kingston DDR3 @ 800 MHz

Again, mine are the lowers values. And our processors are working in the same way:

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Reported stock core clock
4.000 MHz 
4.000 MHz 
Maximum turbo core clock
4.395 MHz 
4.397 MHz

Is these results something i should worry?
 
The other computer has double the amount of ram and it's ram is also set to run faster than yours. It could be the difference. As long as your PC is stable, then you probably don't need to worry about that small difference. I think GPU is likely to have an effect too considering the FPS being the output being measured.

As for GPU temp, if it was really at 94 `c then I suspect touching the back plate would be the same as touching a hot frying pan. It does look likely to be a faulty sensor. These cards are designed to throttle down if the temps get out of hand, but it isn't doing that ??? Deciding on water cooling it comes down to "is it really worth it?" financially. It's still a fast card, but an equivalent speed replacement is not much more than the cost of a suitable water cooling kit (if not even in fact cheaper). Besides, do you even have the space to mount a radiator considering the way you have had to mount the cpu cooler. So factor in the cost of a new case as well and it all adds up.
 
Thanks again Jonh. When you say "stable pc" you mean no bsod randomly, right?
Next step, about gpu, is contacting the vendor as Spinelli suggested. You are alright about costs/benefits. I did it wrong buying this h110 (killing a fly with a brick). Expend too much on this.
Now i have to wait sometime before put more money on this and do better research before.

So, now i will contact evga. Thank you again for helping with this. Cya.
 
Evga forum is almost dead. Did some research and is not difficult to flash gpu bios.
Here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1211151/flashing-nvidia-bios-within-windows

Since i will not edit nothing, i get original rom from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/124751/evga-gtx680-4096-120531.html
It matchs all with my nvidiainspector info

So, if anyone has anything against it, say something in the next 10 min.
If do you want to see if i will brick my gpu or get success flashing, just stay in silence. :p
 
LOL

Hope it went well. I'd still recommend you replace your case with a bigger, better, newer one. When we get into high end stuff, space and airflow are everything. I bought my HAF922 (boxed as 932) 6 or 7 years ago, and it is still an awesome case because it has plenty of space and fantastic airflow. I'm currently on my third PC build using this case.
 
John said:
LOL

Hope it went well. I'd still recommend you replace your case with a bigger, better, newer one. When we get into high end stuff, space and airflow are everything. I bought my HAF922 (boxed as 932) 6 or 7 years ago, and it is still an awesome case because it has plenty of space and fantastic airflow. I'm currently on my third PC build using this case.
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LOL indeed :) It went well but...

...now i´m getting 98° as max temp but i was luck that who made the flash bios software made it dumb proof. Forget to disable the driver at first and choose the wrong .rom

Thanks for the advices John
 
I've flashed my GPU BIOSs 6 million times, never an issue. You'll be fine.

The BIOS will hardly make a difference to your temps considering they're so insanely high.

The fact that the cards are not underclocking/undervolting/throttling, despite almost 100 degree C temps, is what confuses me even more. This is a sign to me that it may be some sort of sensor issue.


Sticking a better cooler on a GPU -which reaches almost 100 degrees C under normal use and with it's normal/default cooler - is not a solution in my opinion. Unless of course the cooler itself is faulty or is not installed correctly, but otherwise, just throwing more and more cooling at it isn't the solution.

Even with your case, I still can't see how it's hitting almost 100 degrees C. And again, why is the care not throttling? It should throttle at around 80-90 degrees (you can adjust the throttling temperature with programs like EVGA Precision, possibly MSI Afterburner, etc.).
 
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Just played sometime now, hit 98° again but no stuttering or fps loss.
I will let this way. I´m tired of this :p
 
I don´t if its good or bad but finally found someone on the internet with the same problem and discover why sometimes i have problems and why sometimes not (not referring to gpu temps)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1468968/strange-frequency-drops-in-game#post_23048558

I just reproduce the problem now and the card throttled!

Turned on the pc and right way go to rf2. Just from the beggining have massive stuttering and fps drop. Exit from rf2 and take a look at hardware monitoring file, which shows me gpu power getting spikes of 333% and gpu underclock to 324 mhz (there is another columns but i only these for better format):

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                                  Power        GPU clock      Memory clock        GPU temp      GPU usage                                                Voltage      
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:22,       93.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              58.000,          25.000,         1.150,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:23,       93.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         97.000,              58.000,          23.000,         1.150,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:25,       92.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              59.000,          23.000,         1.150,                          
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:26,       92.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              60.000,          22.000,         1.150,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:27,       94.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              60.000,          21.000,         1.150,                          
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:28,       333.000,      324.000,        324.000,              71.000,         99.000,              95.000,          12.000,         0.987,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:29,       333.000,      324.000,        324.000,              66.000,         99.000,              95.000,          11.000,         0.987,                        
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:30,       333.000,      324.000,        324.000,              63.000,         99.000,              95.000,          11.000,         0.987,                    
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:31,       94.000,      1097.419,       3004.679,             75.000,         98.000,               61.000,         19.000,          1.175,

Good to know i´m not alone at same time is bad to know i am almost alone with this issue
 
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Je suis Luis said:
I don´t if its good or bad but finally found someone on the internet with the same problem and discover why sometimes i have problems and why sometimes not (not referring to gpu temps)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1468968/strange-frequency-drops-in-game#post_23048558

I just reproduce the problem now and the card throttled!

Turned on the pc and right way go to rf2. Just from the beggining have massive stuttering and fps drop. Exit from rf2 and take a look at hardware monitoring file, which shows me gpu power getting spikes of 333% and gpu underclock to 324 mhz (there is another columns but i only these for better format):

Code: 
                                  Power        GPU clock      Memory clock        GPU temp      GPU usage                                                Voltage      
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:22,       93.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              58.000,          25.000,         1.150,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:23,       93.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         97.000,              58.000,          23.000,         1.150,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:25,       92.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              59.000,          23.000,         1.150,                          
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:26,       92.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              60.000,          22.000,         1.150,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:27,       94.000,      1084.354,      3004.679,              86.000,         98.000,              60.000,          21.000,         1.150,                          
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:28,       333.000,      324.000,        324.000,              71.000,         99.000,              95.000,          12.000,         0.987,                         
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:29,       333.000,      324.000,        324.000,              66.000,         99.000,              95.000,          11.000,         0.987,                        
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:30,       333.000,      324.000,        324.000,              63.000,         99.000,              95.000,          11.000,         0.987,                    
80, 15-02-2015 06:57:31,       94.000,      1097.419,       3004.679,             75.000,         98.000,               61.000,         19.000,          1.175,

Good to know i´m not alone at same time is bad to know i am almost alone with this issue
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You appear to be pushing that card and its throttling on the power limit as expected. Either raise the power limit (which won't help your temps) or lower some settings.
 
MJP said:
You appear to be pushing that card and its throttling on the power limit as expected. Either raise the power limit (which won't help your temps) or lower some settings.
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Thanks MJp but it isn´t that. Every one who reported this problem (gpu power spikes - 333% or 275%) RMA the card and get a new one. The problem is i´m literally thousands of km away from where i bought the card. I don´t know yet how this RMA thing work to see if it is possible to change mine. Still under warranty. I have to see this on dead evga forum.
and is this model especifically i think, gtx 680 4bg ftw le
 
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Je suis Luis said:
Thanks MJp but it isn´t that. Every one who reported this problem (gpu power spikes - 333% or 275%) RMA the card and get a new one. The problem is i´m literally thousands of km away from where i bought the card. I don´t know yet how this RMA thing work to see if it is possible to change mine. Still under warranty. I have to see this on dead evga forum.
and is this model especifically i think, gtx 680 4bg ftw le
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i don't think it matters where you bought the card. The warranty is with EVGA, not the place where you bought the card. Phone EVGA (or online), set up an RMA with them, and you should be good to go.
 
Spinelli said:
i don't think it matters where you bought the card. The warranty is with EVGA, not the place where you bought the card. Phone EVGA (or online), set up an RMA with them, and you should be good to go.
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I did a research and found a portuguese forum teaching how to. My only concern now is about i´ve flashing the bios and opened to change thermal paste but will make questions there. It is a lot easier to me.

As always, thanks Spinelli.
 
reflash to the original BIOS, shouldn't have a problem. With regards to the thermal paste, I'm not sure that voids the warranty. It may, but will they even know?
 
Just to inform you guys that helped me a lot. I contacted EVGA and i was approved to RMA. Now will send my gfx to US, wait for an answer and probably get my gfx fixed.
Thank you all again. Will update here in near future, i hope, with good news.
 
Good news Louie. p


Je suis Luis said:
Just to inform you guys that helped me a lot. I contacted EVGA and i was approved to RMA. Now will send my gfx to US, wait for an answer and probably get my gfx fixed.
Thank you all again. Will update here in near future, i hope, with good news.
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5 weeks ago.............

DurgeDriven said:
There is so many variables.

Basically if it was doing those temps with a brand new card no matter the case cooling I would be RMA ing it .....no question.
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lol
 
lol Durge, all this discussion helped me a lot with support. At first contact i basically told everything we discuss in this thread. The support guy don´t even bother to ask anything more and told me to start RMA process

I have avoided a lot of: unplug this...unplug that... restart you computer... now on safe mode... now with one hand... now with your eyes closed... and so on.
 
Je suis Luis said:
lol Durge, all this discussion helped me a lot with support. At first contact i basically told everything we discuss in this thread. The support guy don´t even bother to ask anything more and told me to start RMA process

I have avoided a lot of: unplug this...unplug that... restart you computer... now on safe mode... now with one hand... now with your eyes closed... and so on.
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Well if you took my advice 5 weeks ago ( 6 now lol ) you would have had it back.

lool p

Now when you get the new one don't overclock it ! :)
 
DurgeDriven said:
Well if you took my advice 5 weeks ago ( 6 now lol ) you would have had it back.

lool p

Now when you get the new one don't overclock it ! :)
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yeah, your idea sucks a lot. They denied my RMA due to "rust on PCB" and "liquid damage".
But what they call "rust on PCB" is in fact "rust on low quality screws" and liquid damage i have no idea what it is.
Now i´m without my gfx, rf2 and GSC are useless on my PC and i paid international shipping for that!

ohh hell****ing**** i hate EVGA, it was to good to be true... i sense this coming. :(
 
Oh damm, sorry man, actually never heard that one before (IF it is in the warranty period ) me personally, I would make a complaint straight to the ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission )

https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/complaints-problems/make-a-consumer-complaint

They kick companies butts well and truly and have powers enacted by Government.
You may not have a consumer commission most countries don't.

I had a set of broken plastic pedals, Fanatec distributor would replace but they wanted me to pay freight both ways.

So I complained to the ACCC, takes 20-30 minutes in a online form.

What do you reckon the distributor did then ?
Contacted me the very next day and apologized . lol
Sent me a set of fully refurbished Clubsports pedals for nothing.

all because they wouldn't pay freight.

damm that isn't helpin' either, is it. :(
 
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