Real F1 2015 Season - Off Topic Discussion

Denstjiro said:
Hulkenberg is an end-boss, winning Le Mans whilst competing in F1, way cool.

Its not sure he will be able to continue? or are you referring to his current team?
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Current team. He never raced in a winning team but, to me, he is clear way more talented of some of drivers of Redbull, Mercedes, Ferrari and Mclaren in recent past years.
I could name them but i will hurt some people feelings. :)
 
but that is not money-related, but more length/weight related. And also, not getting onto a top-team is different then not getting a seat at all ?!?
 
Nimugp said:
but that is not money-related, but more length/weight related. And also, not getting onto a top-team is different then not getting a seat at all ?!?
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If thats was true he wasn´t on Force India´s car. I´m not focusing only in getting a seat but also in better chances in bigger teams.
If Force India manage to fit him on their cockpit with that budget, McLaren or Ferrari would be able to find a way for 2 centimeters more (Button is 1,82). Unless you find that Button is like Prost (which i heard from commentators and find this absolutely funny)
 
Its more difficult for sure, a good driver in a low-tier team has less chances in the long run because top-teams already have top-drivers. (if it was me he would replace Massa right away though)
Its difficult to get better seats but I am pretty sure everyone across the board in F1 will notice drivers like Nico, but its true, better to have a seat then none at all. too many test-drivers came and went unnoticed.


Lou Is said:
I could name them but i will hurt some people feelings. :)
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Since when did that stop you? :p
 
Denstjiro said:
Its more difficult for sure, a good driver in a low-tier team has less chances in the long run because top-teams already have top-drivers. (if it was me he would replace Massa right away though)
Its difficult to get better seats but I am pretty sure everyone across the board in F1 will notice drivers like Nico, but its true, better to have a seat then none at all. too many test-drivers came and went unnoticed.



Since when did that stop you? :p
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Yesterday.

Drivers that actually has better cars then they deserve (top teams and only my opinion, of course):

Button
Raikkonen
Kyviat <-not sure about this
Rosberg

But im talking only about results and speed (quali) Not taking in consideration consistency and not knowing about how much they contribute to team development


And top driver that deserve a better car since a long time ago:
Alonso
 
I'm not sure Button has a better car then he deserves at the moment ;) after all he is a world champion who does beat alonso (two time world champion) sometimes, but is still running at the back. Maybe Alonso is better, but it's not that he is miles ahead to Button atm (Button has more chance against alonso then rosberg against hamilton I think ;) )
 
lol, Button... but yes a world champion for sure. Like Raikkonen :rolleyes:
Not even maldonado deserves the actual mclaren with hondas but i can bet the most part of the grid would trade the cars they are driving now for a long term contract with mclaren.
Not ferrari drivers or mercedes but any other team i think
 
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Maybe yeah, McLaren will come back, sooner or later, and when they do.....

I wont be surprised if Alonso leaves McLaren just before they start competing again hehe!
 
Sochi preditions (1-10)- Quali
1- Rosberg
2- Hamilton
3- Bottas
4- Vettel
5- Massa
6- Raikkonen
7- Hulkenberg
8- Perez
9- Grosjean
10- "Sauber"






Sochi preditions (1-6) - Race
1- Hamilton
2- Rosbeef
3- Bottas
4- Vettel
5- Massa
6- Raikkonen
 
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Lewis looked rather despondent after Q....... hands behind back and no wavey waveys for the Russian crowd. :p


Silverstone:
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lol
 
What a bizarre and action packed GP weekend, feeder series too.
T3 is becoming quite the modern day Eau Rouge, catching drivers out left, right and center. ;)
 
I really like Nico and hope he get`s himself a championship someday, I really do but atm Lewis is just too strong for him and also seems to get the luck... or Nico seems to get the bad luck anyway...

You can beat skill but youv`e no chance against luck. Not saying Lewis doesn`t deserve the championship, he`s driven brilliantly but, like another champ I can think of (or possibly a few) he does seem to be getting the luck whilst his team mate suffers all the bad luck...
 
tjc said:
Not saying Lewis doesn`t deserve the championship, he`s driven brilliantly but, like another champ I can think of (or possibly a few) he does seem to be getting the luck whilst his team mate suffers all the bad luck...
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2007 will forever haunt him mate.

You will never see him "Pull a China" :p ever again ( drive off pit road into a gravel trap ) , that's for sure and certain.


P.S.

All drivers do cock ups it is the great ones don't repeat them.

;)
 
Last year Lewis lost more points on "luck" or shall we call it "Nico helping it" than Nico did, this year, Luck is more on Lewises side but dont forget that he too had a DNF, just one so far if i remember correctly, and it was when Nico finished only 4th i think, so for Lewis it was much better DNF than Nicos where Lewis ended up 1st both cases
 
Hey tj lol

Some drivers by this stage would be locking themselves in a darkened motorhome
with paranoid thoughts of team sabotage, don't you worry.

hehehe
 
MikeeCZ said:
Last year Lewis lost more points on "luck" or shall we call it "Nico helping it" than Nico did, this year, Luck is more on Lewises side but dont forget that he too had a DNF, just one so far if i remember correctly, and it was when Nico finished only 4th i think, so for Lewis it was much better DNF than Nicos where Lewis ended up 1st both cases
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Don`t get me wrong... I have a lot of time for Lewis. The guy is a fantastic talent and a very likable dude and it can also be said that you make your own luck, to a degree anyway.

I suppose I just feel a bit sorry for Nico lately, the guy certainly does seem to be getting the lions share of bad luck just now and mostly everything is running pretty sweetly for Lewis. I also think that, as much of a talent as Nico is he`d struggle to beat Lewis anyway, even with good luck. I think Lewis has the beating of Nico and knows it... and Nico also knows it...

I`d really like to see Nico take a championship though. I hope he does some day.
 
tjc said:
lol yeah... I hear ya D... ;)
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I think Nico has matured a lot this year.

I would love to see Lewis and Seb go at it in Red Bull or the Mercedes era :cool:


One thing puzzled me.

After qual, just that first reaction Toto and Niki both looked at each other like their cars had just been stolen.

I mean I understand it, I get the concern.

But ...they always happy, smiling, hugging when Lewis is 1-2 in qual even 1-3 and Nico has a lockup, issue, whatever.

No initial hugs at Russia p or seemed genuinely pleased for Nico and 1-2.
 
I would have liked to see the reaction of Wolff and Lauda if Rosberg wouldn't have left the track in Suzuka, to avoid a crash with Lewis.

I suspect they would have said that is was Rosbergs fault, if they crashed into each other at that moment, if Rosberg stayed on the track.
 
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Can't believe some peoples reaction to VR's move on Marc at Sepang.

Here is VR trying to fight for a Championship and this nutbag comes along
riding super aggressive and holding him up, talk about fair.



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If some driver not fighting for the title pulled those antics on Lewis they would be black flagged.
 
VR?

Edit: Oh Valentino Rossi (pic didn't trigger me lol), heard about it but didn't see it. from what I heard it was impeding, don't even matter if its a title race or not?
 
VR gets away with to much for way to long.

But: "Here is VR trying to fight for a Championship and this nutbag comes along" means; VR is trying to fight for a Championship......so Marc should let him go and hand him over the spot? Can't fight for it, can't defend it; just let him go.

Is one not influencing the championship by; letting a contender pass you easily or not attacking a contender? Shouldn't one always go for the best spot for himself?

So if you try to finish the best you can; it is normal that you are pushed (kicked even) of the track and left for dead?
 
Completely off topic:

I could start another Petition with the title:
"Exclude Rossi from rest of the champioship"

For me the problem here is, that it is hard to make a fair decision.

But my opinion is, that we definately don't need a Moto GP Worldchampion, that kicks his opponents from their bikes, intentionally.
 
redapg said:
Completely off topic:

I could start another Petition with the title:
"Exclude Rossi from rest of the champioship"

For me the problem here is, that it is hard to make a fair decision.

But my opinion is, that we definately don't need a Moto GP Worldchampion, that kicks his opponents from their bikes, intentionally.
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He NEVER KICKED ANYONE

Get your FACTS straight !



There is such a petition as you describe ........it had 15 votes last time I looked.


@ Navigator Marc was NOT in the WC title fight ......like wtf ?

He had no right getting in the way ?

He deliberately sabotaged Rossi to help Lorenzo win ?

Everyone knows this...........
 
I know that, he was not in the championship when this happened. But does that mean he should give up his spot IN THE RACE because of it?
I say in the race, because other than for the championship, there IS a RACE going on..........Like people love to forget when it fits their own story.

But I see you are getting very annoyed and start to read wrong (or, YOUR way) and attack people for nothing they wrote.
I never liked you in the first place, nor can I stand reading your posts (lol, rofl, lmao and so on) so I had my say and let you work on your upcoming, self-inflicted, heartattack caused by your attempts to defend your boyfriend.
 
Who knows that sport (MotoGp/500/Moto2/3/SBK etc..) is completely aware of what Marquez did. It is just a matter of his weekend pace, with race setup, and then analyze the race laptime chart.

It is clear 100% Marquez had the pace to stay with Pedrosa and Lorenzo and infact he started like hell, keeping the pace of both Ped and Lor. Then he did a mistake on exit (wide) and instead fixing and attack again (as every pro biker) he let Lorenzo pass and he decided to engage a fight with Valentino.

Now, usually, if you are faster you just overtake, complete and close your line and go. Sure you can see fight then, thanks to variable braking points, but in this specific case we had 19 overtakes in few laps.

Pattern was very clear with Marquez passing Rossi, going wide without closing his line, let Rossi pass again and then overtake again Rossi etc etc. He never decided to close the fight and go (he had the pace to just pass and race with Pedrosa and Lorenzo), as he did all the time in other races and as he did in the previous race - where, after slowing down Rossi (to push him away from Lorenzo) in a infinite fight, he closed a 2 seconds gap with Lorenzo in a corner and finished first. That's plain pathetic.

Said that, 3 of the Race Directors, admitted Marquez was slowing down Rossi, intentionally; problem is there is not a penalty for this. Rossi just reacted to Marquez plan, moving wide and waiting Marq to slow him down off his line...and that's why the penalty. Race Directors rejected any "kick" story as it's clear Rossi just lose his footboard after Marquez, instead going wide, decided to cross the Rossi line, moving his head and body against the Rossi leg. Leg movements comes AFTER Marquez lose his COG.

Another very sad thing about Marquez is he said to Italian press, before the AUS GP, he was not going to fight with Lorenzo because out for the championship and in fact he decided to fight against Rossi and then pass Lorenzo at the very end, with just a easy peasy overtake.

Rossi did it wrong this time, that's sure, but he was 100% right about the Marquez/Lorenzo plan and we have plenty of evidence now.
 
redapg said:
Completely off topic:

I could start another Petition with the title:
"Exclude Rossi from rest of the champioship"

For me the problem here is, that it is hard to make a fair decision.

But my opinion is, that we definately don't need a Moto GP Worldchampion, that kicks his opponents from their bikes, intentionally.
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BS. :)

Race Direction:

When deciding on the penalty, Race Direction also took into account some 'provocation' from Marquez.

"It's my opinion on the way he was riding, the lap time [Marquez], my perception is that as many riders do he [Marquez] was trying to change the race," Webb said. "But I was very clear with him that he didn't break a rule. So he's not been penalised.
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“I have a different opinion about today's race. I think he [Marquez] was doing something like that, but many riders in many classes do the same thing and there isn't a rule against it.”
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Asked about Rossi appearing to kick-out at Marquez, causing the fall, the New Zealander replied:

“Rossi's evidence is that his foot came off the foot-peg as a result of the contact. From all the video evidence there is no clear shot that definitely shows that his foot slipped off the foot-peg because of contact or that he deliberately kicked. I don't have that as a 'smoking gun' if you like.”
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redapg said:
BS=Bull-sh-it?

If so, then the only BS that is written here, is to call different opinions Bull-sh-it. :)
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It was referred to the kick story. It never happened.

Of course we are all entitled for a different opinion...but sometimes there are facts too.

Rossi didn't kick anyone. If you kick a MotoGp you're the first to crash while the other bike it's not moving at all. :)

EDIT: BTW sorry, I was a bit rude with that "BS"... peace. :)
 
No problem because of the BS.

But you see/mean what you see/mean and i see/mean what i see/mean.
That's called free right of having an own opinion. ;)
 
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