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ISI is not tied to those chains so they dun hafta say wut they want them to say. Plus, u dont hafta say anything abt something good. U let the product quality do the talking.
no, low budget & diff priorities...isi has made some very small but imo important changes to prettify the game UI & now loading screen (UI in particular was a big one for me)
theyre also attempting to get on steam bc they want more sales. i dont think theres any fear of success at all, its just that, like those bands, theyre going to do more or less what they want to do & people can take it or leave it.
Both Assetto Corsa and RFactor forums have WMD and SMS promoters crawling in here and promoting their unfinished and partially stolen product. It is is interesting what is the aim of this - increase the game audience perhaps? Project Cars is already way down Assetto Corsa in Metacritic Ratings, and I guess it is less popular than RFactor 2 too.
- MADNESS engine with elements obviously copied or stolen from RFactor ISI motor engine (brake and tyre temperature UI elements) with the difference that they serve purely cosmetic purposes wihout any effect on Physics in Project Cars
- "Soap" shaped 3D car models, without the detail quality of a serious sim
- a lot of cheap marketing stuff like - "SETA tire model", "Volumetric throttle"
- aggressive PR and paid experts reviews trying to persuade people that "this is the most realistic sim on the market"
- low polygonal flat tracks without proper surface modelling
Physics of Project Cars with "all assists off":
I don't understand what is the point of promoting PCars either here or on Assetto Corsa forums. All people that do any serious digging in their games will realise that this a a pure bluff and go away.
How do I get money back from Pcars?
Lol, I'm screwed. Well, I was not active with it, so my own stupidity. Ahh well, I was there and played some betas and really never liked it, so no loss there really, would never pay that price for it.
PCars is fun. It is sim, (but then again, sadly, nowadays anything and everything with "pretty good" handling characteristics and/or FFB feel is considered a sim, heck, people even consider the new Dirt Rally an actual sim). It doesn't have that "pro-simness" that rF2 has though.
It seems to me like RF2 is like the indie punk band that is better than all the rest combined but doesn't want to appeal to the masses by becoming "pretty". Fear of mainstream, GranTurismo size success?
Both Assetto Corsa and RFactor forums have WMD and SMS promoters crawling in here and promoting their unfinished and partially stolen product. It is is interesting what is the aim of this - increase the game audience perhaps? Project Cars is already way down Assetto Corsa in Metacritic Ratings, and I guess it is less popular than RFactor 2 too.
- MADNESS engine with elements obviously copied or stolen from RFactor ISI motor engine (brake and tyre temperature UI elements) with the difference that they serve purely cosmetic purposes wihout any effect on Physics in Project Cars
- "Soap" shaped 3D car models, without the detail quality of a serious sim
- a lot of cheap marketing stuff like - "SETA tire model", "Volumetric throttle"
- aggressive PR and paid experts reviews trying to persuade people that "this is the most realistic sim on the market"
- low polygonal flat tracks without proper surface modelling
Physics of Project Cars with "all assists off":
I don't understand what is the point of promoting PCars either here or on Assetto Corsa forums. All people that do any serious digging in their games will realise that this a a pure bluff and go away.
Prolly more so since I didn't pay for it.I'm laughing at me since I paid for it
The SMS track record is simcade after simcade, so i think we know in advance that pcars 2 will be another simcade title.
It never can reached e.g. the excellent rF2 Tyre Model or could be similar.
Some of us don't want to waste our limited time and money on junk.....that said, that's my pro sim bias, i have no idea of how good or bad it is as a game, but it's a simcade title yet again.
Some WMD investors are still disagreeing and cleary have nfi of what constitutes basic driving realism.
The discussion is a bit absurd, I find. Of course pCARS isn't rF2, because it doesn't try to be. It's just a different kind of title, that was very clear from the very beginning. That doesn't mean it's not a very enjoyable title though. I don't see a problem in discussion it here, but please judge it on its own merits. Anything else is silly imho.
I am a WMD member and this is my take on the whole simcade issue. RF2 is like a great documentary film and PCars is like a summer Hollywood action movie. The Hollywood action movie can be very entertaining but, for most people, requires a suspension of disbelief to enjoy.
Durge, how did that vid you posted prove sim physics?
I have f1 2012, i can drive that in the wet, so is that a sim now as well?
The Hollywood action movie can be very entertaining but, for most people, requires a suspension of disbelief to enjoy.
rF2 is a Simulator... I have never felt physics like I have in rF2. The tire contact patch and reaction on some cars is fantastic.
Pcars is a console game in a PC... It's Need for Speed XXIII. It's pretty, but the stuff I've seen makes it look very arcade like in the physics department. From inside the car everything seems right and fine, but when viewing other cars from behind or above and the main car, it doesn't seem to have realistic speed and traction. Everything seems a bit sped up and unbelievable. Does that make sense? When you see cars racing or driving you can just tell when they are about to lose it and when they are on the edge of the knife... Pcars seems to go too far over the edge.
But... It is pretty. Frankly, I was a little disappointed with the Cobra. The model seems a bit cartoonish and the sound is pretty weak. It also doesn't seem as heavy on low speed driving. Tons of body roll... From my memory they seemed better at low speed and had much less body roll. Of course ... I've never driven one.
Probably sums it up .........
schigara said:The Hollywood action movie can be very entertaining but, for most people, requires a suspension of disbelief to enjoy.
You rather dedicate yourself to sims with better physics and not waste your time and money on junk, fine by me and everyone here......... I would have to ask though, how you could waste your precious time bothering with this thread to begin with ? lol